The Native Society Q&A Series: Leo Cosendai

Q&A with Leo Cosendai


What do you do best?

I tend to read people and situations fairly well. Some people call it intuition but I am a firm believer observation is what it really is. Actually, memory combined with observation makes one potent combo!

What makes you the best version of yourself?

Pain and the awareness of pain and its why and how

Space and the time to be alone

Being around people who love me and whom I love


I’ll quote Charles Bukowski on this one: “Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink.”

Current Passions?

Music, Badminton, Climbing, Travelling

My Goal of the Day

Be organically grateful

My Thought of the Day

What if I did x or y the opposite way this time?

My Action of the Day

Give someone a helping hand

My Deed of the Day

Wish a stranger well

My Tip of the Day

Life’s a marathon

How did you get into the wellness industry?

I used to have to tailor my daily travels around panic attacks I knew I might experience when taking the tube. It got a little non-sensical and my wife decided to take me to a sound bath– that was about 10 years ago and it changed my life. Spoiler alert: I’ve been taking the tube happily ever after since then!

Any emerging industry trends? 

My creative director Rachel Wingfield and I have noticed how hungry people are for real – in person – live experiences. We are all disconnected and it seems we are starting to take action: phones & apps are incredible but there is something that the real world does that just can’t or is not meant to be replicated by screens. Hmmh, we could take a guess and presume there’s likely to be a big change in the way public spaces engage people.

Any industry opportunities or challenges? 

An opportunity would be to help the hundreds of millions of people who may:

Unknowingly be living other people’s lives rather than their own (instagram, social conditioning, locked potential)

A challenge would be to

Not get in the way of Life. I think Alan Watts said it best: “every step we take towards enlightenment is a step away from it.”

Inspiration for the Business idea, and your vision for the Business?

Third Ear was inspired by my journey so far. Our vision and mission is to unlock people’s potential and facilitate the expansion or realization of their consciousness.

What’s next for the Business in the near future?

Third Ear is bringing out V.2 of its sound meditation app. V.1 was Apple’s App of The Day in 2018 and 2019 so we’re excited to see what the audience makes of it.

Third Ear will also be showcasing an installation at the London Design Festival 2019 in London.

Your most difficult moment at the Business?

As a start-up? It’d have to be working on a product for over a year without knowing whether it will come out at all. You quickly start to feel very lonely and vulnerable but at the end you come out of it resilient and open-minded.

How do you motivate others?

I strive to guide people into seeing how it might benefit them from their perspective.

Career advice to those in your industry?

Know who you are serving so you don’t shower-guess a product, and know why you are doing it so that you keep going when things get tough.

What do you love most about Your City?


Favourite breakfast meal & restaurant?

Granger & Co in Notting Hill

What are you doing at:

6:00 AM – sound meditation & yoga

10:00 AM – working

12:00 PM – in the garden if sunny

7:00 PM – planning the next day action list just before dinner

1:00 AM – sound asleep

What drink do you need to get through the day and at the end (and how many)?

3l of water

Most used App/Favorite Instagram Account?

Instagram for business

iMessage for chatting

What should everyone try at least once?


Where do you enjoy getting lost?

Nature…lately that’s been Arizona, Swiss Alps, Joshua Tree and Turkey.

What Else to Know? 



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